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Ford Is Not The Only One Shredding The Elitist Cadillac Commercial – WATCH THIS (VIDEO)

Published On March 29, 2014 | By james |


So, we just posted a great article from Business Insider on The Everlasting GOP Stoppers Facebook page, which features Ford’s new ad that take a direct swing at the obnoxiously arrogant –  and in this economy, tone-deaf – Cadillac ELR commercial that celebrates the rich.

As awesome as the Ford commercial is, it’s not the best parody of the offensive Cadillac commercial that’s out there. The TEGOPS favorite so far belongs to Joy Camp. It’s beyond hilarious, but honestly, we think there are more on the way. This could be the beginning of something big!

We think the best way to present all this is just show you the three vids, in order. We’ll start with the original Cadillac ad, the EPIC Ford ad that basically cuts Cadillac off at the knees, and then end with our personal fave, from Joy Camp;

“Introducing the first ever Cadillac ELdoRado. You work hard, watch TV, take pills, and vote once a year. You operate STRICTLY from your left brain...”



Ford’s EPIC response:

And our personal fave – KEEPING IT REAL!


  • TheEverlastingGOPStoppers

    Which one was your favorite?

  • Hills887

    The parody was funny but I really liked Ford’s. That was good counter-marketing.

  • sozzled

    The ELR is a joke – a dressed up Chevy Volt with a $75k price tag. At least Tesla is truly innovating on the premium electric car front (will eventually sell more affordable options..soon) and they’re not as pretentious as the tax payer bailout GM. America needs more companies like Tesla and less corporate giants who cater to their stakeholders, rewarding executives while cutting salaries/unions and closing factories. As for the videos..I liked the last one.

    • cablepuller

      That’s right. Let’s bitch and complain about each other. Just as the plutocrats want!

  • Lisa Amador

    I think it’s sad that we criticize those that work hard, pursue the American Dream, and find success. I realize that not everyone is successful, but there’s no harm in trying. It’s none of our business how much money a person makes as long as it’s legal. They aren’t taking anything away from you or the rest of us. What’s even sadder is that this generation really believes that wealth and resources are finite and those that have more must be taking from those who have not. The last video shows a total loser, yet somehow, he seems more appealing to your audience.

    • nruvio

      The problem with the American Dream is that it institutes a sense of worthlessness for those who don’t achieve their lofty ideal of a dream. It helps argue that the rich and successful are rich and successful solely out of their own work, and that the poor are poor because they are lazy. Even you just said the last video shows a “loser,” despite it only being a limited view into what his life really is like. It’s bourgeoisie rhetoric at it’s worst sometimes. That being said, it’s never wrong to dream and aspire to be the best you can be. It’s just insensitive and short-sighted to apply the concept to the whole of society without an understanding of what it entails at an ethical level.

      Also, wealth is intrinsically scarce. The entire concept of wealth implies the lack of it elsewhere. Resources are finite. Economics is the study of scarcity. It’s what makes the world go around.

      • Lisa Amador

        If you had any idea of how economics works, had any experience in applying practicum to theory, and witnessed the evolution of a free-market first hand (like we did in the 80s), you would understand that wealth and resources are absolutely not finite. Real commerce, real economics run by the people and not the government isn’t perfect, but it’s the best example of how wealth is created, abundant, and infinite.
        An example would be harvesting trees for paper. You plant 50,000 trees that grow 40′ every two years. Harvest 33% per year for a paper producer, replant and harvest the next 33%, and so on, you have renewable resource that generates wealth, is biodegradable, has multiple uses, and employs dozens, if not hundreds of people. Trees are like any vegetable – another infinite resource as each creates its own seedling. People became wealthy by purchasing large parcels of land. They’re harvest contributed to clean air, provided machinery the national and states leased to clean fire-causing debris, and created the most efficient recyclable natural product known to man. Then the Sierra Club came in, the government claimed imminent domain, the forests became old and brittle with no maintenance, the machinery was sold or stored, forest fires were out of control. With the loss of vegetation and root base, the rains would create mudslides (something almost unheard of until the 90s), homes and property were destroyed, and consumers were convinced by special interest groups that plastic, or even worse nylon, reusable bags were the answer. Bags we purchased from China.
        Like I said. The free market isn’t perfect, but it’s the best way to create wealth. No government ever has, in all of history, and never will, create wealth. It comes from the people, who pay the government a portion of their income, to support programs that care for the needy. Less people earning an independent income are less people paying into the system. Plain and simple.
        Steve Jobs didn’t take money or wealth from anyone. Beyonce and JZ are hundred-millionaires and they never put a hand in anyone’s pocket. They became rich because they discovered an infinite resource. Music will make money until the end of time. Plants will grow forever, and energy can be produced in ways we haven’t even discovered.
        You are wrong. Very wrong. And, so is much of your generation that believes it takes cool and popular people voted into office (we don’t vote for politicians because they are smart or experienced), with zero knowledge of how to run a household, much less a business, that will join with others like them to solve problems, live within their means, or create a program that actually works. A successful business or program sustains itself. There is no government business (DMV, Post Office are great examples) that can do that. Yet, FedEx and licensing representatives in the private sector make an impressive profit providing the exact same service. Services are also infinite, as they are powered by a persons energy and tenacity, not a product.

        • Mr. Green

          Your mistake is assuming the free market creates all opportunity and solves all problems. Capitalism is inherently not competitive and will always seek to limit markets to extend the profits of past investments. Think not? Look at big oil, big media, weapons manufacturers, the banking industry and the most costly healthcare system on the planet. They’re all actively involved on maximizing profit, limiting government oversight and creating more problems than they solve. What they are NOT doing is investing in potentially disruptive, problem-solving change.

          Where would Apple be without silicon chips and the Internet, technologies developed by government investment? Those bags made in China would not be purchased here without their government investing in transportation infrastructure. You know those IT jobs outsourced to India? –Government investment in public technical education. Just a quick note about the Post Office: This agency has been in continuous operation since 1792, employees 627,000 people, is reliable as hell, and completely self funded. I would say they’ve proven sustainable. Can Fedex deliver a letter for 49 cents?

          I am in the target demographic of the Cadillac ad, and I have to say it absolutely did not move the needle with me. GM was virtually dead a few years ago and our government injected money in them to keep them alive. Now they are finally producing cars again that are competitive in today’s market– using technology developed by others and meeting fuel standards dictated by our government. Am I willing to pay $76k for a very average car because some pot-bellied actor thinks only taking two weeks of vacation is a sacrifice only Americans make, and we deserve nice things? Nope. And that guy is a jerk, regardless of his wealth.

          • Lisa Amador

            Your mistake is assuming anything about me. I don’t assume the free market creates all opportunity, but it sure does ensure growth, invention, and development. The rest of your rant was just that. Talking points. Who in this feed owns or runs big oil, big media, in banking, or (ridiculous) are weapons manufacturers? The majority of us are small business owners, and mostly service providers. Like the Ford ad proves, you can enhance dirt, sell it, buy a beautiful modern home, drive a nice electric (and still expensive) car, improve the community and the planet, and cop a deserving attitude.
            You miss the point because you have no clue, because the post office is currently billions of dollars in debt. There. Proof you have no clue of what you write. You just spew talking points, lies, and distortions. Good day.

          • nruvio

            “Your mistake is assuming anything about me.”

            -Goes on and assumes everything about the other person. I’ll go ahead and think you’re a strong believer of classical economics. If you’ve ever taken at least a basic economics course, you’d understand the idea of scarcity, and how it propels the entire world forward. Any economist worth his or her salt understands that all products and resources have a limit in terms of output and creation. Scarcity is what drives supply and demand, and helps establish prices and value (along with the social needs of the time).What you’ve been trying to describe in your lengthy, albeit factually and scientifically incorrect comment, was the multiplier effect. Yes, investment can lead to increased wealth, and so can the ingenious use of old and new resources. This does not mean it happens infinitely and indiscriminately. The soil from your farms needs to be laid to rest, and increased demand at a given time could result in a shortage of product on the market, driving the prices up; your machinery needs to be manufactured, but a shortage of copper is causing the cost of production of conductive electrical material to rise as well, curtailing the profits of the farmer, manufacturer, and the miner. These things happen all the time; the availability of silicon directly affects the profits of tech companies like Intel. So I don’t know how you can possibly think that resources are infinite in any way.

            Money, also, is not infinite. Do you know what happens when there is too much money available for everyone? We call that inflation. As more people have access to ten dollars, ten dollars becomes worth less and less in the market. Inflation is why a multi-millionare in 1890 is the equivalent of a multi- billionare in the present day. The Federal Reserve controls in the influx of currency in the economy, and removes it or injects it to keep the value of the dollar steady, or react to a sudden plunge or rise in its value. Look up the fall of Rome, or the value of the dollar in 1985 compared to 2012.

            Now, do you know what GDP is? It means Gross Domestic Product, and essentially measures the total goods and services produced domestically. The most simple formula to calculate it being: Y = C + I + E + G, where Y = GDP, C = Consumer spending, I = Investment, E = Exports over Imports, & G = Government spending. Now, you are partially right about consumer spending: it is the biggest chunk propelling the economy. However, do you know why government spending is calculated alongside the other factors? -Because it DOES matter. Government spending and investment affects a plethora of industries, ranging from military to energy tech, and everything in between. You may argue that it shouldn’t be that way, but then all that it means is that you’re stuck in a non-existent time where government did not influence society both socially and economically. This is where the argument for Keynesian economics stems from (named after economist John Maynard Keynes). Look him up, also read up on the economics of the New Deal and World War II.

            This is all, by the way, EXTREMELY basic economics, most of which you demonstrated a laughable misunderstanding of. I say laughable not because you are ignorant, but because you are condescendingly ignorant. Perhaps your personal optimism stems from the fact that you don’t know what you are talking about, either.

          • Lisa Amador

            Wow! Considering I have a degree, have worked in three countries for over three decades, and have managed my own business for 11 years, I’m going to assume you’re working with some new-fangled economics your picked up from some Orwellian website. You make absolutely no sense. Demand may drive consumers, but nowhere does it say a service (human energy) or a product (most renewable) are finite. A perfect example is the Ford ad. She enhances and sells DIRT! When are we going to run out of dirt? It’s renewable. You must have studied economics under some Common Core Standards.

            The Feds and the government need to stay out of the free market. We don’t need them to “invest.” We didn’t need them to invest in the telephone, the telegraph, the first highways or public transportation. The New York Transit was invented and built with private funds. So were many of that state’s original buildings and bridges. Government steps in and mucks up the system. Consumers drive demand and once in a while someone comes up with a really great idea, but more important, they convince people that it’s a product or service one can’t live without and it drives a different demand.
            (You may want to work on that grammar and spelling too.)

            An article by the Wall Street Journal should enlighten you and others that continue to depend on government programs that don’t work, have no history of working, and yet progressives continue to believe that each attempt didn’t go far enough. How much is enough? We’ve poured (invested) trillions of dollars into another attempt to mend an economy, taxed the middle and upper class to the extreme, and imposed more regulations (fees) than ever in history, and we still can’t dig ourselves out of this hole. It’s up to our kids. They now bear the burden.

            ‘The goal of the New Deal was to get Americans back to work. But the New Deal didn’t restore employment. In fact, there was even less work on average during the New Deal than before FDR took office. Total hours worked per adult, including government employees, were 18% below their 1929 level between 1930-32, but were 23% lower on average during the New Deal (1933-39). Private hours worked were even lower after FDR took office, averaging 27% below their 1929 level, compared to 18% lower between in 1930-32.’

          • nruvio

            Orwellian site? Really?

            My knowledge sources from economists like Adam Smith (the father of classical economics; proposed your beloved “free market” idea and challenged mercantilism), David Ricardo (theorized on specialization), Thomas Malthus (theorized on population growth and control), John Stuart Mill (utilitarian classical economist turned towards socialist tendencies in later life); to Karl Marx, Henry David Thoreau, John Maynard Keynes, and other neoclassical thinkers. There’s nothing “new-fangled” about anything I wrote above.

            Your degree means shit if you can’t even recognize or understand the bare minimum of the very arguments you are trying to make. The funny thing is that you are so ingrained in your political arguments that you can’t separate economic discussion from politico-ideological biases. Did I once mention what the government should or shouldn’t do? Did I somehow make this discussion about “Common Core standards” and other right or left wing fodder? Nope.

            As far as your selectively quoted study from the New Deal goes: nothing new there. I wasn’t arguing in favor of the New Deal, I was describing examples of Keynesian economics in action. Furthermore, you’d have to be blind to ignore the obvious economic jump start that WWII caused in the U.S. with the immense amount of government contracts moving the industrial war machine along. Did all those tanks, ships, and aircraft just make themselves by the will of the free market? Government contracts are a very real thing, and military technology has a tendency to make it’s way to consumer-grade products or services: see microwaves, the internet, nuclear power, GPS, computers, etc. If you really are so passionate about government interference, then at least remember that (again, in Keynesian fashion) GM, the company whose commercial we’re all arguing about, was bailed out by the U.S. with a TARP fund back in 2009.

            So yeah, let’s consider that someone like you actually has a degree, or that you somehow managed your own business for 11 years. They do say anything is possible. Also, my spelling and grammar is essentially fine throughout the entire previous comment, with the exception of “millionaire” and “billionaire,” but typos can occur. Did you even finish reading 1984, or did you think that was full of grammatical errors too?

            P.S. My peers and I are the kids that have to bear the burden of your generation’s blunders.

          • AnnaB

            You’re getting so OWNED RIGHT NOW.

          • Raji the Green Witch

            Again Lisa, you reach FAR up into your rectum and pull out shit and dress it up as FACTS. IF the electric grid, the telephone network, the transit system and all the other things you love to tout as being better run by private industry were ACTUALLY left to private industry, 95% of America would BE without electricity, Telephone and public transportation. the Rural Electrification Act is what BROUGHT electricity to the farms and rural areas of the nation. Government investment ALSO went into rural telephone service, the Interstate Highway System, The FAA, the FCC, the Intrastate Waterway System, the list goes on and on. Hell, you obviously are an inner city dweller, even the paved roads in your own city exist because of Federal investment into your State which passed that investment down to your own community. Maybe in New York the Transit System was built using local investment but it NOW is very dependent on Federal Grants to build bridges and tunnels, as well as to upgrade equipment. And EVEN if that is NOT the case, New York is NOT the entire United States. It is ONLY a TEENY tiny percentage of this Nation. You need to get out more and AWAY from New York and actually VISIT the USofA. That means NOT going from New York to just another HUGE metropolis, but actually getting out to SEE the country.

          • Deb

            YOU ARE WRONG!!!

          • Raji the Green Witch

            The debt of the Post Office is an artificial debt. It was created by the Congress. Congress decided that USPS should fund its retirement program 75 years into the future. Yes. making sure that the funds were available for postal employees who haven’t even been born yet. Yet the GOP insists that it be run like a private business. Well name just ONE private business that has a retirement program FULLY funded for 75 years into the FUTURE! Forcing the USPS to do this essentially hamstrings the Postal service and makes it impossible for it to EVER break even, let alone make a profit. You CAN’T blame the unions for this, the Unions were 100% opposed to it right from the beginning. they ONLY wanted a FAIR retirement program. They don’t want to shoot themselves in the feet. The Postal Services competitors certainly are not operating under such a constraint and yet THEY have a hard time making ends meet. You have again pulled “facts’ out of your ass and waved them around as though they were truth.

        • Deb

          You must be a Republican!!

          • Lisa Amador

            Fir trees can grow 20 feet in three years. That’s how we harvested paper through mills you idiot. You think they chopped them down, ran out, and said one day, “Oh shit! We’re out of trees!” Trees are not finite. Vegetables, trees, wheat, humans and anything else that can reproduce is NOT finite. You’re an idiot if you base your tested and failed theories on such nonsense. Watch the Ford parody. She makes money enriching dirt.
            You should be a motivational speaker. Go ahead. Tell everyone that it’s impossible to lift yourself out of poverty. Give up. Reproduce. Collect welfare. Your kids will have kids and they’ll do the same. Eventually, we’ll all be poor.
            Good lord you are insane. Making excuses for failure explains a lot about your anger, name calling, and frustration.
            Go ahead. Take it out on me. My parents were dirt poor. They toiled to make a better life for me and my siblings. We strive to create a better financial environment for our kids. So what, we got a head start thanks to my parents and their immigrant parents. We don’t make excuses. Neither should anyone else.

        • Raji the Green Witch

          Hmmmm Lisa has discovered a tree that grows 20 feet in a year! She must have won a Nobel Prize or something! Lisa, I have NEWS for you, resources DO have a limit. There IS only so much oil, Gas, land, trees, food fresh potable water, etc etc etc. And we ARE using it up MUCH faster than it is being replenished. And YES, even MONEY has a limit. Money is supposed to be backed by something valuable and things of value DO have a limit. THAT is what makes them valuable, scarcity! IF money had no limit then it would be worthless. It would seem that YOU are the one who needs to be schooled in economics.

    • youmustbejoking

      Those who have “made it” seem to have a short memory about what it was like before they got there. They have people working under them they don’t want to pay a decent wage for the hard work those workers put in. The wealthy get greedy and want to keep it all. The wages have not come close to keeping up with the cost of living, the benefits have declined and even disappeared and those who are still working hard are getting little for their efforts.

      • Lisa Amador

        No they don’t. We don’t have slave labor. I’m a small business owner. I pay accordingly, plus bonuses if profits are good to create incentive. Due to taxes, increasing fees, and just the mystery of not knowing where this market is going forces me to hoard revenue. Revenue I could use to expand my business, but every time I turn around, there’s another fee, another inspection, another license, and another tax increase at the end of the year. Problem is, I didn’t see these things coming at first and almost lost my business. I had to take a loan at a high interest rate. My employees almost lost their jobs.
        I don’t wake up every morning thinking to myself, “How can I screw someone out of money today?” Neither do any other small business owners I know. We wake up thinking how we can do better. That’s it, and then we look for solutions or brainstorm with clients and employees. Most of my employees make minimum wage, but it’s because the job demands a limited skill set until that employee develops leadership, management, and budgeting skills. I didn’t hire slaves. These people all came to me, filled out an application, passed an interview, and agreed to exchange labor for wages. They agreed to the wage at the time of their application. If they didn’t think it was enough at the time, they were free to look for another job. That’s how it works. You act like we force people to work. Last time I checked, this was a free country. Your argument is false. Completely.

        • Deb

          I am a small business owner as well and you are wrong….just wrong!!!

          • Lisa Amador

            About what? You mean you employ slaves? Or that you can predict every single financial hurdle coming around the bend? If so, I’d love to borrow your crystal ball. I’m not wrong about my own business. I’m not wrong to pay minimum wage. This is a free country. If someone agrees to work for $8 an hour, that’s their business and mine. Not yours or the government’s.
            Sorry, I’m not wrong about the reality of my own life and you have no idea who I am, what I do, or how this economy effects my bottom line. Actually, you know very little to make such a generic comment.

          • WillowFish

            Yes, if someone “agrees” to work for $8 an hour. -_-

            You seem to think that people have a choice in the matter. It seems you have a very “let them eat cake” attitude and that’s most disheartening. People don’t “agree” to work for $8 an hour because they’re too lazy to make millions. They “agree” to work for $8 an hour because their other option is starvation and homelessness.

            Also, sorry but you don’t have a clue about the basics of economics or science for that matter. I don’t have a degree, not yet, and even I could have pointed all your mistakes out for you. For instance, until you can perfect a matter replicator, dirt is still finite. We may have a whole lot of it, but it’s finite. Everything has its limits. Real estate, potable water, precious metal, even oxygen, is finite. If you don’t believe me, put a candle on a table and stick a glass jar over it. Watch the flame go out as all the oxygen in the jar burns up. Our atmosphere is a giant glass jar and if we keep pumping CO2 into the planet and cutting down all the trees that help turn that into oxygen, we’re gonna go out just like that flame. Everything is finite.

            Oh, and if you think that taking the government out of economics is the answer, you should probably ask the folks of West, Texas how they feel on that particular subject.

          • Lisa Amador

            Everyone in America has a choice. Everyone. It’s a free nation for goodness sake. My brother was stuck in poverty due to his choices. Got sick of it one day and made better choices. Got two jobs. Moved in with a couple friends. Saved his money. They saved theirs. Now they run their own service business with almost no overhead. We all have choices. It’s just that some feel they’re too good to step down and start over, invest in themselves instead of asking for handouts, live within their means, sacrifice a little to create a better life.
            Even most poor people own TVs, cell phones, wear nice shoes, have a roof over their heads, own stereos, electronic equipment, have air conditioning and heat, and even cars. That would be considered pretty rich in some of the countries I’ve visited.

        • youmustbejoking

          I’m not talking about small business owners who still have to wonder month after month if they are going to survive. Sorry, but I consider you to be more one of us and not one of them. I’m talking about those who are CEOs of companies where they are making hundreds times more than those in their employ. Those who make millions a year in salary and benefits and figure out ways they can take even more from those who work so hard for them. People like the CEO of Papa Johns who said they would cut hours of employees just so they can get out of offering health insurance. We have big corporations who took jobs from Americans so they could keep more profit and have made obscene amounts of profit while taking advantage of GOP supported tax breaks that keeps them from paying any income tax. How is that a rational or sane thing to have happen? Why should they get to enjoy what the rest of us pay for and not have to pay any of the share themselves? What I wonder at is why so many small business owners, who will not be affected by things like the Affordable Health Care Act, still are sticking up for those big businesses that really don’t them any favors either? You are the one who needs us to use your services or buy your products to survive. They don’t care if you do.

        • robert90069

          If the minimum wage had kept place with inflation, it would be something like $20 per hour now. Imagine how much more your customers and every one else would have now.

          Where has that difference gone? The top one-percent-of-one-percent; the Wall Street corporate boards and “investors”, like outsourcing Romney. They are why there aren’t enough jobs anymore.

        • Raji the Green Witch

          Lisa, you prove our point. “Due to taxes, increasing fees, and just the mystery of not knowing where this market is going forces me to hoard revenue.” YOUR words, not mine. You are hoarding rather than investing. the economy works only on cash FLOW, not on cash stagnation. You are typical of many other business owners. You benefited from the economy when it WAS good and now that some sacrifice is being asked of you, you resist it. (“taxing ME to give to others is Socialism”). Yet when the REST of us were being TAXED to provide roads, phone lines Electrical lines Rail lines (not the rails themselves But the rights of way) none of THAT was socialism; it was just good common sense capitalism. It’s funny how socialism is GOOD for the country when business needs government help to establish infrastructure but when workers need some help just to eat and pay the rent, it becomes a total evil to be avoided at all costs. the current minimum wage IS slavery. It puts workers into the position of having to KEEP that job or starve. Don;’t give me that malarkey about no one is forcing them to stay at that business. Bosses FIRE workers who are discovered to be searching for a better job and you very well know it. I’m wiling to wager YOU have even used that threat against your own workers. A job that pays low wages IS slavery, the ONLY thing lacking is the title of ownership to the worker, but the effect is STILL the same. IF you pay a wage that is below the worker’s ability to support him/herself and his/her family you ARE a slaver and I’m sorry if that fact hits too close to home. but it is time YOU grew up and realized it.

    • y.slobodinskaya

      What’s sad is that some people who can’t recognize parody, and can’t tell the difference between success, and using that success to screw over everyone else.

    • David Pinero

      I think it’s sad that you’ve settled on a self-created premise to which you then add a smarmy well-written thesis to. Nobody is criticizing anyone that works hard and few if anyone really believes that success should not be rewarded. Where do you even “hear” that in your day to day completely lawful living?

    • Deb

      Lisa, educate yourself in the History of Capitalism. I have
      worked hard and I will be fine. However, there are many not as fortunate and
      our Government just keeps taking from the less fortunate. It is fundamentally
      WRONG. GREED by Corporate America!!!

      • Lisa Amador

        Wrong. Neither I, nor any small business owners “take” from anyone. Especially the poor. To suggest such a thing proves how misinformed and brain-washed you have become. One of the little “sheeple.” Consumers purchase goods and services from businesses like mine. My taxes support programs for the poor, retired, and civil servants. I host fundraisers for local charities. The poor need us to support them, not the other way around. They don’t have to thank us (the middle class), but it’s insulting for them to insist we contribute any more. I know plenty of people on the dole, including welfare, disability, and unemployment, some are even family members, and they are more than capable of working. The poor should hound them for wasting precious revenue. Their revenue. Being poor isn’t always a choice, but our system allows nearly every citizen to lift themselves, if they are able and/or willing, out of poverty.

        • steve

          Complete and utter rubbish.
          All politics and highbrow economics aside, The GM commercial was simply a bigoted American testosterone driven statement of exceptionalism.
          If you had truly traveled, you would have met people, real people, intelligent people. People who have never been given a chance. Ony because it is in the interests of an resource greedy nation/corporation (I see little difference) to instigate instability, pay less tax or no tax to pillage the mineral resources of that nation.
          The poor haven’t the means nor the support. Being poor is, as you wisely pointed out never a choice. However it is almost impossible to break free from the shackles of poverty, and from that stand point alone one might as well be a slave.
          When societies work as a cohesive unit to mitigate poverty then the poor will have a chance.
          This however does not mean adopting radical Marxist sentiments nor throwing money at unregulated charities and NGO’s etc. It means providing genuine opportunities for success, Success begins with a a sense of pride, dignity and most of all a sense of well being. That generally comes from opportunities for education, up-skilling etc.
          Individuals and corporations like your self, that hire a work force on a baseline minimum wage effectively take away these opportunities away and make them virtually unobtainable.
          The net effect is a disaffected, alienated and poverty stricken work force with the productive motivation practically whipped out of them. Yet you have the nerve to say it is of no concern as to what you pay you labor force, which is to say ‘folks bury your heads in the sand and …… hear no evil see no evil say no evil’
          lets just throw accountability right out of the window- What exceptional snobbery under the pretense of a worldly vision.

        • Raji the Green Witch

          WRONG Lisa, your position enables YOU to hire a good accountant and tax adviser along with a decent financial adviser. A person making minimum age does NOT get to do such things. YOU get to take advantage of tax write offs, tax breaks and other benefits that the average minimum wage maker can only DREAM of. YOUR effective tax rate is considerably LESS than that of your average minimum wage

          worker. While it MAY be legal it is NOT equitable. If it is NOT equitable then you ARE taking away from the less fortunate in order to benefit yourself (your business). You MAY pay more in terms of absolute dollars but the EFFECTIVE RATE at which you are taxed is less obtrusive than it is for your employees. You are NOT payi8ng your fair (equitable) share. And your insane rant about Welfare, disability etc is just that, a RANT. I am on disability. I am BLIND. I went blind defending YOUR right to be an asshole. I EARNED every cent that I get from the government. I paid into the system my entire working life. It is NOT an entitlement. the system is called Social Security Disability Insurance. I was FORCED to pay premiums out of my PAYCHECKS throughout my working life. A contract was established that promised me an income if I became disabled or reached retirement age. I have done BOTH. Now that I AM disabled I have the RIGHT to the benefits which were promised under that contract. It is NOT costing YOU a thin dime out of YOUR taxes. It comes out of the Social Security Trust Fund (which, BTW was raided by the Congress and MUST be repaid just like any other legal debt of the U.S. government). So, although YOUR taxes MAY be going to pay to repay the Trust Fund, it IS a legal and legitimate debt. So quit whining about that one. The money was borrowed, it must be repaid. And LASTLY, being poor is ONLY a choice when a vow of poverty has been made by certain clergy and others in such a position. Otherwise, poverty is completely involuntary. You don’t get OUT of poverty by just deciding to stand up and say I refuse to be poor any more. I WISH that was all it took. I would have done that years ago. But the rich control all the money and in spite of what you posted in another post, there IS a limited supply of money available that is between 2,000 and 10,000 billion dollars according to the Federal Reserve bank of St Louis. The upper 1% controls 60% of that supply and the next 19% controls the next 25% which doesn’t leave very much for the rest of us to squabble over, now does it? Your statement about there still being plenty of opportunity is FALSE. It MAY have been true up until the mid 1990’s but that door has been slammed in the faces of ALL but the extremely lucky. At this point it takes phenomenal luck to get rich OR a willingness to be a cut throated bastard, actually walking over the fallen bodies of your fellow humans. Honest hard work and ingenuity is no longer a sure-fire way to financial success, at least in the developing world. Our “system” has made a VERY radical change for the worse and ONLY those who have NOW or are lucky enough to “hit the lottery” (in more ways than just gambling, of course), or are actually in the right place at precisely the right time are going to be able to climb out of their circumstances.

    • TheEverlastingGOPStoppers

      total loser? care to elaborate?

  • Javier Wilcox

    Up next, Lisa Amador says GOP-type stuff on an anti-GOP website; folks get mad. Stay tuned!